Gingrich Does Not Even Have A Slight Chance Of Beating Obama
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Perception. It is all about perception. And a great many Americans perceive Newt Gingrich to be an arrogant crook and an egotistical racist.
I have been a card-carrying, “true-conservative” member of the Republican Party ever since 1968, or long before many of the contributors to HubPages were even born.
And as is well-documented in a number of my hubs, I vote only for Republicans and have never voted for a Democrat or “other” in my life -- I am strictly opposed to legalized abortion and affirmative action -- I believe that Martin Luther King, Jr. is one of the most over-rated individuals in history and that the “Civil-Rights Movement” that he led was largely a waste of time, money and lives -- I also believe that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is unconstitutional -- and I believe that Barack Obama’s presidency is one of the worst things that ever happened to America.
Now, what is very interesting is I, of all people, despise Newt Gingrich, the man who just might be the current front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination. Even though I have never failed to vote for a Republican for president, going all the way back to 1968 when Richard Nixon ran for that office, I will not -- I repeat, I will not -- vote for Gingrich if he should win the Republican nomination.
When I go to my polling place in November of this year, I will vote for all of the other Republican candidates who are running for office but I will not check either of the boxes for president. I do not want Obama to be the president of my country, nor do I want Gingrich to hold that office. I refuse to aid and abet either one of those enemies of America.
However, my personal decision concerning whether Gingrich or Obama should be president is quite insignificant. In the grand scheme of things, my feelings about the matter is nothing but a speck in The Universe. One of those individuals would be voted into office, regardless of any actions I would take or not take.
On the other hand, though, there is one thing that is quite significant, and that is as huge as the planet of Jupiter, when it comes to the grand scheme of things. And that is what the American electorate decides to do in November, 2012.
The big question is would the majority decide to vote for Obama or would the majority decide to vote for Gingrich?
Of course, I am not a fortune teller or a soothsayer, but I firmly believe that if Gingrich should win the Republican nomination, Obama will be re-elected by a landslide.
That is the way I see things because if I -- a stone-cold “true conservative” and loyal-to-the-bone Republican -- cannot stand the sight of Newt Gingrich, how do you suppose that such blocks of voters as large numbers of “moderate Republicans,” “straddle-the-fence Independents,” “anti-conservative Democrats who are disenchanted with Obama,” and my Hispanic and black brothers and sisters” view Gingrich?
The answer is the aforementioned groups’ view of Gingrich largely stems from their perception of him -- and among them, he is widely perceived to be an arrogant crook and an egotistical racist. In the eyes of millions, he looks evil, acts evil and is evil. He does not appear to be a good person and the majority of Americans have no desire to invite him and his “perfect-looking wife,” Callista, to their homes for dinner or for a few cocktails.
Oh, I nearly forgot. Gingrich is a terrific debater and he would most certainly knock Obama out for the count in a one-on-one confrontation.
Well, all of that is well and good but the problem is, if Gingrich beat the hell out of Obama in a debate or in a series of debates, that would cause many of the millions who already hate him to hate him even more than they already do. They would see him as being nothing more than a show-boating, grandstanding bully who is “out to make a black man look bad.”
Switching gears and for the sake of argument, let us say that Newt Gingrich is not really a bad guy. In actuality, he is one of the kindest and most compassionate men in the world. He believes that all human beings are equal and he does not have even one racist bone in his body.
Even if all of that were true, it would not make any difference -- and that is because hardly anyone, if anyone at all, perceives him to be that kind of a person. Much of the electorate, if not most it, has already formed a negative opinion of him that it would take many years, or even an entire lifetime, to disprove.
The widespread perception of Gingrich is that he is a mean, fat, jowly-faced old man that most would rather not see on TV addressing the nation as president.
He does not have the “classy handsomeness” of Ronald Reagan, the “kind grandfatherly appearance” of George H.W. Bush, the “he reminds me of Elvis looks” of Bill Clinton, the “good-old-boy-next-door looks” of George W. Bush, or the “he’s-not-a-bad-looking-black-dude looks” of Barack Obama.
Finally, and I hate to say this, but all of you who are hell-bent on Gingrich winning the Republican nomination for president actually have a death wish for the Republican Party.
He does not even have a slight chance of beating Obama and his candidacy for president would mostly only serve to cause a whole lot of irreversible damage to the Republican Party, as well as the conservative movement in America.
The left would end up taking over most of government and go on to gain even greater levels of power and influence over Americans than it already has.
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Hey, Mark,
Yes, I certainly did change my mind. In fact, I probably did one of the biggest flip-flops in the history of HubPages.
The reason why that happened is I came back to my senses. After giving the matter more thought, I realized that Gingrich is just as divisive as Obama is.
It is just that Obama is causing there to be wide class divisions, while Gingrich would cause there to be wide divisions between the races and possibly even touch off a race war.
You make sound points, and there's no doubt that the media will savage Gingrich like no other candidate in history. However, if I had to pick Obama or Gingrich, Gingrich with all his faults is still far more preferable.
Hello, Will,
I totally agree with you concerning Gingrich v. Obama. I could never bring myself to vote for Obama; and if push ever comes to shove, I certainly will vote for Gingrich.
It is just that I believe that he has far too much baggage to defeat Obama. The media attacks, alone, on Gingrich would ensure Obama's re-election.
I can't disagree. I'm supporting Romney.
Well feenix I am in total agreement. He doesn't have the chance of a flea on a rat's ass of beating Obama. He looks like one of those "good ole boys" that we need out of Washington. If he is the Republican nominee then this commonsense conservative will vote for a third party candidate.
Hi, feenix,
While I continue to disagree with you on public policy, I cannot find fault with your analysis. I think you are right: if Gingrich is the nominee, Obama will win. I think it has everything to do with his image, as you say, but it also has to do with his hypocrisy. He attacks Romney for being an elite who speaks French (no kidding: an ad attacked Romney for being able to speak French) when Newt did his dissertation on education in the Belgian Congo, and cited several sources that are written in French.
Never mind the whole family values hypocrisy.
Newt won in S.C. (I think) largely because the GOP base in N.C. was afraid of the Mormon.
My belief is if you are an extremists, you can't help but be hypocritical. Look at all the televangelists that commited audultry, as well as politicians. This was done while they were espousing the sanctity of marriage. I don't give a damn what they do, but don't say one thing and put people down and then do exactly what you put them down for.
Hey, Will,
You know what they say about great minds, my friend. ;-)
I'm for Romney, too. He's the man, in my book.
Hey, Rich,
You certainly are not alone. If Gingrich wins the nomination, a whole lot of Republicans and conservatives with common sense are going South.
Hello, Jeff,
Thank you very much for your supportive comment. And similar to what you said, there are regions in South Carolina in which the people are afraid of anybody who is not an "All-American White Protestant."
In fact, I am pretty sure that the reason why so many of them came out for Gingrich is they were ignorant of the fact that he has converted to Catholicism. ;-)
Hello, PeoplePower,
Amen, brother.
Gingrich, like a number of the TV "saviors," certainly is a smug, self-righteous hypocrite.
I sure do hope the nominate Gingrich, I wouldn't stop smiling...
Hello my friend.
I am so hoping Gingrich gets the nomination! Best thing that could happen to the Democratic Party. *Big Evil Grin*
Hey, Cmbeverly,
The way things are looking right now, you're going to have a lot to smile about.
Hey, Silvie,
It is really good to hear from you, my friend.
As a matter of fact, I have no doubt there is a top-secret Obama army carrying out a clandestine plan that is helping Gingrich to overtake Romney.
. . . and Romney does? Vote intelligent. Vote Independent.
I'm laughing at the world not with it :)
Hey, WD,
Yes, Romney would beat Obama.
Vote Independent?
I can't do that, because I don't even know what it takes to be an Independent. ;-)
Hey, Cmbeverly,
Yeah, I know what you mean. There are a whole lot of clowns out there.
I am beginning to get this sense, that even thought there are many Obama haters out there, subconsciously, they see Obama as more presidential, than any of the candidates. I don't think they are even in touch with it. I bet I create a firestorm with this comment...just speaking my mind.
Thanks for SHARING.
I will enjoy the debates, he will cream Obama, The man claims to have made a moral turnaround in his life, I am beginning to believe the old Republican guard is afraid of him, like he may be some of kind of whip cracking boss they don't want! Who knows the truth! I wish we had better but he is the only one with passion! I will punch the ticket for a monkey over Obama,.........sadly but it will be done! voted up btw
@peoplepower73, Obviously you are a Democrat. Obama does have a glorious chrisma when he talks. He knows very well how to shmooze the crowd. So did Hitler. I'm not saying he's a Hitler but I am saying he talks a talk but has no intention of walking the walk. All this rhetoric coming out of his mouth is to appease the Liberals and throw a bone to quiet down the Conservatives. He puts forth plans he knows damn well are not going anywhere. He hasn't done anything for this country since his election. These bail-outs caused us more harm creating massive debt. His healthcare bill is a sham. It does nothing for people. The whole 1900+ pages are only good for toilet paper. He claims he created more jobs, especially in the energy program making batteries. These batteries he's talking about are being manufactured in Sweden. He claims he wants to bring manufacturing back to America and re-negotiate trade agreements? He's been in office 3 years, why hasn't he been doing that? He is nothing but hot air.
Hey, peoplepower,
Even though I can't stand Obama, I must admit that he has that certain je ne sais quoi. He's a smooth-talkin' dude who operated in the fast and furious streets of the South Side of Chicago for a quite a long time.
And that is the reason why I do not think anybody should think that he will be an easy mark for "The Great Debater," Sir Newton Gingrich.
Hey, AR,
As I stated in the comment above, I do not think anybody should under-estimate Obama when it comes to debating Gingrich (if such should come about).
Obama is a Chicago street dude which means that he has very strong survival and fighting instincts.
As a matter of fact, I can see him taking out Gingrich by using a tactic similar to Muhammad Ali's "rope-a-dope" technique.
Hey, Rich,
In my opinion, peoplepower did not do anything to show that he is a Democrat.
The only thing he did was call a Spade a Spade.
Hi Feenix! Enuff said! Gingrich could not beat Obama! Your points are well taken!
What it takes to be Independent? A clear perspective and sanity. We don't wear hats and wave flags like five year olds at a birthday party.
Hey, Dex,
You, I, and millions of other folks with good-old common sense know that Gingrich does not have a chance in hell of beating Obama.
Hey, WD,
Well, I guess I have to go back to school.
I have always been of the impression that being an Independent is a "straddle-the-fence kind of a thing."
Hey feenix
What scares me is that NEITHER of them should be pres. Obama or Newt will kill this country without so much as a single qualm or pang of consience
I agree, but I am guessing that with out his telepromters the debates will be interesting, Both have great speaking skills for their own side, one is based on knowledge of history and world facts, the other based on liberal ideology from the world of make believe!
"Yes, Romney would beat Obama."
See, here I disagree with you again. I think he stands a better chance than Gingrich, because he might appeal to the more pragmatic moderate base, but if Romney gets the nomination, I predict a repeat of the 2004 election, where the challenger pulls a lot of votes because of anti-incumbent sentiment, but can't close the deal because he's ultimately unrelateable for most Americans. Romney is the GOP's John Kerry: smart and effective, but completely out of touch with mainstream America.
Hey, Geo,
You have pointed out something that is very significant.
Today, we here in America are living in very dangerous times -- the most dangerous times there have ever been in this country, in fact.
Hey, AR,
I totally agree with your assessment of the "debating realities" of Newt and Barack.
However, the way I see it is, a whole lot of today's Americans live in the same world of make believe that Obama and all of the other leftists live in.
Millions believe that this is supposed to a fantasy land in which they are handed good-paying jobs, get their fair share of rich people's money, and handed tidy sums of cash (funded by our tax dollars) just for being alive.
Hey, Jeff,
You might be right, or I could say, you probably are right.
But, at least, and opposite of what is the case with Gingrich, Romney is good looking and a likeable fellow.
Rishfsr: I know I'm going to be attacked but so be it. Here are the facts: The financial meltdown that Obama gets blamed for occurred because there was too little government oversight of and virtually no restraint on risky loans without sufficient capital to back them up.
That started in 1999 with the removal of the Glass-Stegal Act. The recession was prevented from becoming a depression because of government infusion of cash to shore up the banking system. It created a floor for the recession. The downturn hurt fewer people because of the stimulus which supplemented wages with a tax cut. saved public jobs, and created jobs through infrastucture projects and incentives to create private sector jobs especially in manufacturing...That's what Obama did that was good. You can call him all kinds of names, but these are the facts. Thanks for SHARING
Thanks Peoplepower, so nice to read facts instead of the fairytales woven by Rush or Glenn or the rest of their ilk...
Hello, Silvie,
Interesting, I think Peoplepower is real cool, too. In addition to you and Credence2, he is one of my favorite "progressives." ;-)
Flatterer... :)
I have no problem with people choices. Everyone has a right to their opinion and their own vote, but I do wish we all would do the research and look at it honestly. We need to know why we choose a candidate. We need to vote with our heads not our emotions or because we always voted this way. And when it is all said and done we need to get behind the person that was chosen by the majority. As adults we should have come to realize by know we cannot always have everything our way. Compromise needs to be a word we all need to learn and out into play.
Without we will never reach any solutions as some of our elected, working for us in case we forgot, officials have shown us in the last couple of years.
After the latest debates the only guy that did not turn my stomach was Ron Paul, Even though I do agree with some of his views, not enough for me to vote for him.
Hey, Silvie,
Your comment displays a whole lot of wisdom on your part.
However, I must say, if the majority of Americans ever voted a present-day Vladimir Lenin into the office of president, I would not have anything to do with that individual.
As a matter of fact, I would do everything I could to ignite a massive revolt against him.
One of the terrific things about living in America is that not a one of us is REQUIRED to support a president just because he is the "people's choice."
And the frequent lack of compromise between the two major parties is a good thing. If the day ever comes when those parties find middle ground on everything that comes along, we will be living in a country that is akin to such one-party societies as North Korea, Cuba, Iran and Red China.
A government that is deeply divided in the ways that it approaches the issues is one of the things that keeps us free.
Ohhh my typos are killing me...
No one can find a middle ground on everything, but the current clowns can't seem to find one on anything.
Gingrich is a big boost to the Democratic party. He will cause the Republicans to lose in 2012 if he is nominated. Pelosi was on the Ethics Committee when he was in office years ago and she is saying "he has no chance of winning". She is not elaborating. Unusual for the opposing force. I suspect she knows something that is not known to us average people. And is probably waiting to blow him up later if he is nominated.
Hello, Silvie,
In my opinion, one of the primary reasons why there is so often a need for the two parties to find "middle ground" is each of them is out to shove their agendas down our throats rather than doing what is best for America.
Hey, Rich,
Yes, if Gingrich ends up being the Republican nominee, that certainly will be a big boost for the Democrats.
Also, I heard it on the grapevine that Nancy Pelosi knows a secret about Gingrich that is so "terrible" it would be one of the biggest "October surprises" in the history of presidential elections.
I have to wonder what could be worse than the stuff we already know about him...? :)
Hey, Jeff,
Very good question.
However, when it comes to a thug like Gingrich, the "secret" just might be that he ordered the hit on Jimmy Hoffa. ;-)
Hi feenix,
I do not like Gingrich.
Thank you for another interesting and thought provoking hub.
Voted up and awesome
Hi, Sue,
Thank you very much for your very supportive comment.
Quite frankly, I feel guilty over the way I have been treating you lately. I have been ignoring your writings while you have continued to read mine.
I have been obsessing over this Republican nomination thing, and I need to cut that out, because it is causing me to neglect a number of things.
Anyway, in the very near future, I will make it all up to you. I promise.
No need to feel guilty, I understand my friend.
Take care and have a great weekend. :-)
But Feenix, Newt has such purty eyes! lol
You make some rational points here, but if he gets the nomination I will still vote for him over Obama any day...despite the fact Barack is cuter.
Well, Feenix, from the perspective of the "eye of newt' he is the only true conservative in the race. I suspect that Romney will win in Florida, but he has one hell of a job selling himself as not just another version of the current president. I am not impressed with Newt as a debator, he can be easily tripped up at any time with his record. For Romney to get the hearts and minds of true conservatives is going to be a fight to the finish.
Hi, Beth,
What a pleasant surprise it is to hear from you. I thought that by now, you would be sequestered in your cabin by the lake typing out the final pages of your latest book on that Royal. ;-)
Anyway, are you aware that Newt wears a hair piece? I just read about that in one of the forums. ;-) again.
And, yes, if push comes to shove, I will vote for Newt, too. And that is because my attitude is the worst Republican in the world is better than any Democrat.
Hey, Cred,
Do I detect some gloating on your part?
Well, don't start counting your eggs just yet. It is my strong opinion that once the dust clears, Romney will emerge as one of the hippest dudes to ever run for the office of president.
I mean, like, the man epitomizes the greatness of America.
Feenix, Me gloat? hardly. When we libs clean your clocks this fall, I would like to know that at least you field a candidate that won't have us all revisit the LBJ landslide of '64. In the face of what is coming, Romney reeks after a corpse already. I have got my popcorn out and sit watching the blow by blow plays, doesn't get any better. Enjoy your week, Cred2
Hey, Cred,
It is coincidental that you mention 1964. Just the other day, I told a friend that if Gingrich wins the nomination, he will end up being the Barry Goldwater of 2012.
And I wish you a good week.
Feenix, I'll set down cook a spoon shoot up and drink a fifth of Jack Daniels, walk out and lift my horses tail and french kiss it before I'd vote for obama. I'm going Mit Romney all the way, Gingrich should look in the mirror and see he is not the one who can take obama down and for the sake of the party step aside, He is another Kennedy, been around way too long with a history of one line cut downs like a playground bully.
I'd hate to vote for him but I will, I'm not Republican, I'm not blind deaf or dumb, I know what has cropped up since 2008 and the number of laws obama has broken in office right now he should be in the midst of his final days of impeachment. I'm blown away by the inaction of the majority house and it's in action.
What bothers me most is loosing both the senate and house under an obama win. America will be over if that occurs, if there exists any back bone in this country it will mark the time to be wetting the tree of Liberty with the blood of tyrants, I just wish we would have reached this stage when I was 10 years younger.
Peace,
Dusty
Fenix I understand you are of the conservative persuasion but I am still curious to know... Do you face palm while reading some of your peer's comments? I have to believe that at least a few conservatives realize a lot of the other conservatives are wildly misinformed. Liberals, Libertarians etc etc have nut cases too I acknowledge that certainly. It just always seems the craziest of conservatives have that racist tone all too often. Maybe it's is just something only I notice I don't know...
Hey, Dust,
You wrote, "What bothers me most is loosing both the senate and house under an obama win. America will be over if that occurs..."
If Obama wins in November, chances are, the Dems will regain the majority in the House and retain the majority in the Senate.
And if all of the above does happen in November, only God will be able to help us when it comes to the kinds of appointments that will be made to the federal courts and the U.S. Supreme Court.
Thus, it is time for a whole lot of Republicans, "Tea Partyers," "true consevatives" and Evangelicals to stop thinking with their hearts and to start thinking with their minds.
The name of the game is kicking Obama the hell out of the White House -- NOT making a dumb and futile attempt to turn the U.S.A. into a "Christian-Conservative fundamentalist state."
Hey, Cmbebeverly,
I have been living in New York City for nearly 35 years, and as is widely known, this huge metropolis is teeming with white-liberal Democrats.
Well, let me tell you something, my homey. I have encountered more white racism in this city than ever did in my home town, Los Angeles, and in my ancestral homeland, "The Deep South."
You see, a very high percentage of the white-liberal Democrats in NYC are hard-core racists -- it is just that instead of displaying it in violent, insulting or derogatory ways, they display their racism by "patronizing blacks and Hispanics to death."
In other words, they tend to treat blacks and browns the same way that people treat pets and livestock. They have this attitude that non-whites are poor dumb animals that should be pitied and that have to be cared for.
Are racist black people unfamiliar to you? I am not assuming your ignorance I am just trying to avoid assumptions. Growing up in Washington D.C. I can say from first hand experience and accurate estimations that... Some black people are far more racist than any white person I have ever met. Some would call them "sellouts" but I prefer the term "crabs". I also have the unique perspective of having a German mother who retains her accent to this day. She works in South East D.C. General Hospital. If you don't know the area, basically it is famous for crime. According to her she believes black people are much nicer more accepting and generally more fun to be around. However she still believes black people are more racist to other black people than white people. What's your take on it?
Hey, Cmbeverly,
racism: noun -- The notion that one’s own ethnic stock is superior.
Now, when it is taken into account that blacks tend to regard themselves as inferior to whites (largely because of the way they have been, and are being, psychologically conditioned to think), there is just about no such thing as “black racism.”
That is true because only a relative handful of blacks regard themselves as superior to whites.
So, the reality of it all is the following:
While there are only a relative-few black racists, there are a whole lot of blacks who dislike, and even hate, whites -- just as there are a whole lot of them who dislike, and even hate, themselves and their “own people” … for being “black ‘n ugly.”
feenix, your comment above might be worth discussing in the forums. Some liberals would do well do examine the distinctions between racism (the assumption-conscious or otherwise-that one's own race is somehow superior) and racial hatred (the resentment or despising of another race).
There's also an element of power dynamics to consider. Once upon a time, when I was teaching an English class, our discussion led to racism. One of my students said something interesting to me. He said that while anyone can be prejudiced, I could be racist toward him, because I had the power to give him a lower grade than he deserved, but he couldn't be racist toward me, because he had no power to affect me at all. So to that student, racism requires the power to put your prejudice to work.
This was like 15 years ago, and I'm still not sure whether I agree.
But I'm off subject. I still say that Romney is the John Kerry of 2012. He's not an example of what's great about America. He's an example of someone who was born to privilege and used inherited wealth to build more wealth. Now he makes his living by collecting interest. Nothing wrong with that, but it's not exactly a rags-to-riches story. More of a riches-to-greater-riches one.
Hello, Jeff,
I agree with you. The nature of my comment would make for an interesting forum topic.
Now when it comes to Mitt not being a "rags-to-riches story," the exact same thing applies to me, a black man who was born to, and raised by, low-income parents.
In other words, I was not born to parents who had a wealth of money, but they sure did have a wealth of many of the other things that count, such as common sense, a strong work ethic, a deep sense of faith, a powerful will to succeed, and I could go on ... and on.
Thus, even though I am certainly far better off financially than my parents were, I was not born into a situation that consisted of "rags," meaning that I certainly am not a "rags-to-riches story."
Just like Romney, I inherited a great deal of wealth from my parents -- and presently, I am living on the high-yield returns from all of the wealth that my dad and mom willed to me.
By your definition I was correct in my earlier comment. You may want to take a trip outside of New York sometimes. I wont comment any further but if you start the forum discussion I'll be there.
Yo, cmbeverly,
Ich reiste in der ganzen Welt lange bevor sie geboren wurden.
And so far as that goes, I have no doubt that I was "living" in Germany long before you were even born. And chances are, your mom was just a little girl when I was "living" there.
The point is, I've been around the world, seen the Seven Seas, the redwood trees, the aborigines and the Pyrenees. ;-)
feenix
Romney appears to be in full control and the frontrunner after his victory in Florida. There isn't anything Newt can drum up to derail Romney at this point.
An OBAMA- ROMNEY debate on healthcare should be a highlight of the campaign. Romney, self made billionaire and Obama, a millionaire made by Wallstreet, Special Interests and the Unions. One will fight for the Constitution, the other will fight for Social Justice. One believes that spending other peoples money or borrowed money will turn the economy around (3+ years and $4 trillion ), the other believes in less government, less taxpayer spending of borrowed money and less taxation on the working citizens. Who will win, Capitalism or Socialism??
I very much agree with you on the point that if Gingrich were to win the nomination (although that is looking to be very difficult at this point) he would lose the general election pretty easily to Obama. There were some points you brought up about why Gingrich would likely lose but I wanted to add - and I think this is huge - that many conservative voters in the south (in states that a Republican will NEED to take in the south in order to win the election) will not vote for someone with his history of marital infidelity. Religious voters do not want to vote for someone who has committed those acts. Also another huge problem with Newt's past are the 84 ethics violations he was charged with in the House of Representatives. This is the type of issue that could be toxic to a Gingrich campaign against Obama. Lastly people seem to forget that Gingrich was utterly obsessed with trying to remove President Clinton from office after Clinton's sex scandal (a very hypocritical move), and he led his party from a huge electoral success in '94 to some serious losses by '98 and was basically pushed out of office due to the damage he did to his party. To sum it up, if Gingrich can manage to win the Republican Ticket, it is highly unlikely that he can beat Obama.
true, true, true,
but Newt is SO smart.
Well, Romney will be the nominee, because the establishment wants it, and so do the Democrats, and that's good, because we all love a Ken doll even if you have to wind him up.
Brace yourself for the complete evisceration of the Mormon religion, because it will soon be upon us.
Hello, Jon,
You asked, "Who will win, Capitalism or Socialism?"
In my opinion, socialism is already winning in America and it cannot be stopped.
Hello, Bludwiczak,
Your comment would make a terrific hub.
Also, Gingrich does not give a damn about America. That is quite obvious because he if did care about the well-being and advancement of his country, he would not even be running for president.
Finally, I must say that Gingrich is little more than a common thug, but opposite of what is the case among a considerable number of thugs, he has no honor.
Hello, mslizzee,
You wrote, "Brace yourself for the complete evisceration of the Mormon religion..."
Yes, I have no doubt that will happen but I have got the Mormons' back.
The reason why I have the Mormons' back is thousands of them are out in the streets of "ghettos" and the "barrios" all over the U.S., working very hard to deliver help to the down-and-out.
On the other hand, the Evangelicals are not doing a damned thing to help improve the conditions in depressed and troubled urban areas.
Newt or Romney matters not. BOTH are Progressives claiming to be conservatives. Conservatives will not fall for this again. Since 1988 the RepubliCRATS forced Progressives to be the party standard bearer. This country has been in a deep decline since then. Since Reagan we have had nothing but Progressives to choose from. Romney, Ginrich, Obama, all take this country into oblivian. Fasten your seat belt.
OK, that's a good thing.
But did you know the Mormons send millions to HEZBOLAH every year. Yes they do! True it's to help the needy, but still that is not a group I feel like helping. I think we should keep our altruism at home. We have so many people that are so in need. Folks born into poverty and a culture from which they will never escape.
Hello, Gusser,
You wrote, "This country has been in a deep decline since 2000..."
Actually, the U.S.A. has been in "a deep decline" ever since FDR's first term in office. He and his Soviet Union-sympathizing henchmen and henchwomen sicced the socialist dogs on the nation.
If America is ever repaired, it is going to take many decades for that to be accomplished. And the repairs will have to be carried out one step at a time.
And, at this point in time, fielding Mitt Romney as the Republican candidate for president is one small step in the right direction.
Hello again, mslizzee,
You asked, "...did you know the Mormons send millions to HEZBOLAH every year?"
Yes, I am well aware of that, just as I am well aware that, every year, the Mormons send millions of dollars and thousands of missionaries to poor and needy societies of "colored peoples" all over the world.
In fact, if other U.S. Christians were doing as much as the Mormons are doing to help the poor and needy around the world, there would not be as many America-haters out there as there are.
How does electing another Progressive help this country?
Gusser,
I will respond to your question by asking you a question:
What makes you think that in today's climate, a "true conservative" could be elected president?
Just to jump in here, but if you would have asked me four years ago, could a socialist be elected president, and I would have thought, NO.
Which makes your statement even more-so correct....because somewhere down the line we took a hard turn left.
As much as I would love to see a 'true conservative' at the helm...I want a person who can remove the socialist, and take some baby steps back to a more conservative land.
Asking a question in responce to a question usually means you're stumped. I will answer yours. This country is on the brink of total collaspe. This condition will swing the electors 180* away from the left. Does not matter which side is correct in this. The swing will occur with the massive devaluation of the dollar this year. A hard swing to the right makes getting a Conservative elected much more likely. If the RepubliCRATS have given us another Progressive to vote for, he would most likely be elected also. But for no gain to this country. Why not try to actually take advantage of the swing & change policy to Conservatism? It would be a slam dunk to convince voters of the need for Reagan type conservatism after an economic collaspe. If conservative voters support another progressive because the " party" puts one up, conservatism is dead in America. Primary time is the time to support a Conservative. Santorum is the closest thing to that. Vote on principal NOT party.
Gusser,
Okay, if it makes you feel like a real big, brilliant dude, then I'm stumped.
And our great nation is NOT "on the brink of collapse."
It is just that a whole lot of folks are as scared as hell because they have allowed themselves to be brainwashed by such individuals and entities as talking-head TV pundits, the news media and internet prophets.
Hey, CM,
Your comment consists of words spoken by man who truly has common sense.
Wow--If US citizens are brainwashed & scared, what about European citizens? Their collaspe is happening now. What about the collaspe of the Soviet Union? Were their citizens brainwashed too? Socialism/Communism is a failed form of government. The countries using these forms of gov. are collasping all around us. As are we for implementing socialism into this Republic. Sometimes chicken little is right. The sky is falling.
Gusser,
I know you don't realize it but you just agreed with my stand on things.
All you have to do is look around you -- and you will see that a great many contemporary Americans have the same socialistic views that exist throughout Europe.
And, of course, the citizens of the old Soviet Union were brainwashed. Just to name a few of the ways in which they were brainwashed, they were psychologically conditioned to NOT believe in God and to be completely reliant on "The State."
And there is no such thing as "Chicken Little" being right -- and that is because "Chicken Littles" are nothing more than frightened little chumps who panic when just a few tiny rain drops plop down on their heads.
Best wishes when those tiny little drops of rain hit your head. I will never support another Progressive from either party. Some people have no principals.
Gusser,
During my time I have seen a whole lot of big strong oak trees with "strong principles" get uprooted and blown away by the winds of change.
The point is, in order to win a war, one must give up a little ground to the enemy, from time-to-time.
The progressives have been taking ground since Roosevelt according to you. WHEN do you suggest the Conservatives win some ground? AND how do you win a little ground by electing another RepubliCRAT Progressive?
Gusser,
Are sure that you are a conservative?
So far as me, I am a stone-cold, hard-core conservative.
Thus, opposite of what is the case among liberals/progressives, I do not ever look to a president to improve things in this country.
There is only one way that America will be able to move beyond its current problems and that is, We, the People, must take matters into our own hands.
We must come together and do such things as establish thousands of new businesses, clean up depressed urban areas, tutor school children in order to prepare them for the jobs of the future, do volunteer work in places like homeless shelters and jails, and I could on ... and on.
No, my friend, "true conservatives," do not sit around and wait for some "true-conservative savior" to come along.
Do you ever answer any questions? You can do all the above, BUT having a Government take it all from you is never going to succeed. America was somewhat as you describe above in the 1950's. The Government then started taking it all away in the 1960's The progressive gov'ts will help the homeless, provide jobs, educate the children, etc. If you want individuals to do it again, STOP VOTING FOR PROGRESSIVES.-----NUFF SAID
Gusser,
You imply that I do not answer questions.
Well, what I call it is my rope-a-dope technique.
And check it out: What is keeping you from doing such things as volunteer work in homeless shelters and jails?
I retired in 2006, and ever since then, I have been keeping myself busy by doing volunteer work in a men's homeless shelter, one of the New York City jails, and in one of the local Veterans Adminstration hospitals.
And a considerable number of other conservatives are working right along with me.
Opposite of the way you obviously see things, we do not believe that government has taken away our ability to help others and to make contributions to the well-being of our great nation.
Drop the rope--- before you trip over it. Call it what you want, you don't answer questions. As far as the dope part,...............................................
Gusser,
I only do paid interviews.
So if you want me to answer your questions, slip a few bucks my way. ;-)
You don't answer a question that you have no answer for. It's called Gottcha. Supporting Progressives is something progressives do. They appreciate your vote. Fake Conservatives are thus exposed.
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Gusser, I understand the core of your argument. What I think you are missing from feenix is that, as a conservative, this next Presidential Election is extremely important to win, or maybe a better way to say it is, this election we must stop the direction we are heading.
It is not perhaps the most conservative person that will begin to take back our country...it is the best person that can remove the leftist, liberal powers to be out of washington.
The conservatives best use its power to gain back the senate and keep control of the house.
THAT represents the best conservative movement that we the people can do for our country.
IMHO.
Chris
Hey, CM,
Terrific response. Truly terrific.
When I hit the big time, you most certainly will be one of my speechwriters. ;-)
Chris--Romney & Obie are progressive twins---net gain ZERO The Senate & House races can be won with a Conservative on the ticket for Prez.
I'm not sure if I would make a good speechwriter, but I would make a great fan...and a supporter. Keep on plugging away, and stay focused on the big picture.
Gusser,
So, what you are saying is, if Romney wins the nomination, the Republicans should not count on getting your vote for president.
Okay, cool. I'll make sure that the RNC stops sending you junk mail. ;-)
Hey, CM,
Quite possibly, one of these days, you and I are going to make a great team.
Gusser,
I 100% disagree with you....though he is not a Reagan conservative, he is NOTHING remotely close the socialist that occupies the White House.....
Romeny understands how business works, Obama does not.
Romeny understands how lower taxes spurs economic growth..Obama clearly does not.
Romeny uderstands we MUST reduce spending...Obama has NO clue how to do this.
Romney understands how we are over regulating business from growing...Obama wants MORE regulations over business.
Romeny is campaigning on repealing Obamacare...Obama is hell bent on pushing it through....
Romney understands the saying "peace through strength"...Obama "peace through apologizing to the world for us being arrogant"..
I think Romney is hands down different and I think if we have control of the house and senate...he will be even MORE conservative.
feenix, It would be an honor to be part of any team you orchestrate. I look forward to that day.
If the RepubliCRATS nominate either Romney OR Ginrich OR any other Progressive they lose a lot of voters that will stay home. Thus they then lose the Senate & possible the House too. END of Party. Conservatives are tired of this crap. The Party can either return to it's conservative base or cease to exist. McSame had no coattails. Another Progressive this time won't either. Time to learn from recent history.
Hey, CM,
Man, oh man. What a great comment.
I believe that what a lot of people do not understand about Romney is that as president, he would operate quite differently from the way he did as the Republican governor of one of the most liberal states in the Union.
Thanks for allowing my opinion. Many conservatives share it. If only 2% fail to show up at the poles in Nov. OBIE WINS. This party needs to accept the fact that a Conservative will energize the base. A Moderate (Progressive) Won't. As far as Romney, a Zebra never changes stripes. If you are willing to compromise your principles in a liberal State, you can be counted on to do the same in the United States. Grace to all.
Gusser,
With all due respect, the primary reason why both the Repbublican Party and conservative movement are losing traction is there are far too many folks out there who are looking for the same quick fix that you are looking for.
It took more than 70 years for things to get as screwed up as they are today, and it is going to take a very long time for them get straightened out.
Gusser, with all due respect, you talk a mean game....but, you are not thinking logically or with any common sense. I assure you, I am as Conservative as the next guy....I adored Reagan.
History tells me this........if conservatives are going to stay home and let the other guy have thier way....we WILL cease to exist.
That is why Obama WON...conservatives pouted. The independent voters went with hope and change.
Gusser in order to return to our conservative base, we must prove the country our policies are best. We have to take some baby steps to get back that power.
The Tea Party was responsible for the 2010 landslide. They created the traction to fix this before it's too late. Nominating a Progressive will be the parties FINAL slap in their face. Baby steps won't get you out of the way of a train. As you said, Conservatives didn't show up in 2008, why do you think they will after another Progressive is heading the ticket? 2010 had not Progressive at the top of the ticket. History repeats.
Gusser, I have one question for you.....WHERE is the Tea Party now?.....why are they NOT out like they were promoting what needs to be done? Yes, they was very effective in 2010...but they seem to have fallen asleep.
Just a honest question.
Gusser,
I respectfully request that you do a little homework and some very serious soul searching.
For one thing, there are NOT nearly as many "true conservatives" around today as there were back in the days when Ronald Reagan won two terms.
Today, a very considerable number of the "true conservatives" who voted for Reagan are dead and for the most part, they were not replaced.
What we have in America today is a relative few "true conservatives," a whole lot of straddle-the-fence conservatives, a huge number of people who unwittingly have socialistic views, quite a few all-out socialists and communists -- and the ones who account for the largest voting bloc there is, the self-proclaimed Independents.
Thus, in order for either the Democrat or Repubublican candidate to win in November, he is going to have to attract the majority of the "Independents."
The Tea Party has shown the Party how to win, They don't control the party. The are waiting to see if the RepubliCRATS will pay attention or screw it up again. We are getting our answer. Nobody can deny that Conservatism won big time in 2010. WHY desert it now? The RepubliCRAT party either heeds the warning or it's gone. Another party will arise slowly to take its place. This is their last chance to GET IT. It only takes 1 or 2% with like beliefs to doom this ticket to failure. A Conservative will arouse both Moderate Reps & Cons Reps to the polls.
Gusser,
You wrote, "The Tea Party was responsible for the 2010 landslide..."
That is not true at all, my good man.
The primary reason why the Republicans regained the majority in the House and gained seats in the Senate is a whole lot of Americans who had previously supported Obama, or who had sat out the 2008 presidential election, finally came back to their senses.
The truth is, the Tea Party is in the same league as the Occupy-Wall-Street movement.
Independents make up 20% of the vote block--They are NOT the largest group by far. Independents voted with the energized Conservatives overwhelmingly in 2010 for CONSERVATIVE candidates. Progressives lost big time. History repeats. You can expect 2008 if the Party nominates a Progressive & expect 2010 if they finally appeal to their base.
Gusser,
Where did you come up with the figure that Independents account for only about 20% of the electorate -- from some self-serving conservative or liberal site on the internet?
Plain old common sense reveals that the current electorate consists of about 20% conservatives, 30% liberals, 40% Independents, and 10% "I-don't-give-a-damn's."
Your common sense is not fact. Google is your friend. I've got other things to do today,check back later,Thanks again for allowing my opinion. Remember just a very small % like me will end this mess. The RepubliCRATS can't win without us.
Yeah, and I'm going to the gym and after that, I'm meeting up with a real pretty "true conservtivette."
feenix
‘’In my opinion, socialism is already winning in America and it cannot be stopped.’’
The Obama today is not the one that the American people voted for and believed in 2008.In my life time the 2012 election will determine the path that our country will be taking in 2013.
Today the President chided Congress not to derail the recovery. Not once did Obama refer to the Democrats in the Senate holding up 23 jobs bills passed by the House. The House is only one half of the Congress, to people in the know that understand that the other half, the Senate, aren’t getting the job done. Senator Reid should compromise and at least allow the Senators to debate, amend or approve/reject the House jobs bills. That’s the way Congress is suppose to work. The Guy in the Whitehouse should be kicking butts, Harry’s to be exact. Funny how Obama blames the minority, 1/3 of government, rather than the 2/3s who have been in majority control since 2007. To be continued
Hello, Jon,
You wrote, "...socialism is already winning in America and it cannot be stopped."
That is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. In fact, when you get right down to it, Obama is only a miniscule part of the problem. The lion's share of the problem is comprised by the huge-and-rapidly-growing number of Americans who have the attitude that government is supposed to do such things as "create jobs for them," "bring jobs back from overseas" for them, distribute a sizable share of rich people's money to them, and force the big corporations to spend large portions of their profits on providing people with jobs, even in those cases when the jobs are not really needed.
In my opinion, it is time for thousands-upon-thousands of Americans to rebel against government and to start a bold new movement based entirely on unlimited capitalism, self-reliance and self-determination.
The one-and-only reason why politicans, especially the Democrat ones, are standing in the way of progress is "We, The People," have handed them far too much power and authority.
Feenix, I love the "speck of Dust in the Universe" line.
But, Damn, I hope there are at least enough of us specks out here that we can at least be enough of an irritant to force a tear in the eyes of the final combatants.
As to Newt?
He has his own self-destruct mechanism, you know!
HIS MOUTH!
It is inevitable, that such arrogance will drive him to keep saying those radically ridiculous things that make us all love him so! HA!
Hey, Don,
You're right.
I have no doubt that Newt will self-destruct -- or else, Nancy Pelosi will rat him out for something or the other, because she won't be able to restrain herself from doing that any longer.
At this stage, it's all about dirty laundry. I think Newt has more dirty laundry hanging on the line than Mitt.
Hey, peoplepower,
You know, even if Mitt is the one with the most dirty laundry, at least, he looks clean.
On the other hand, Newt looks like one of those guys who has a lot of greasy black dirt under his finger nails.
Yeah, I even felt like I detected a faint TICKING sound last night when he popped up on the TV news, again.
I looked and he still has both hands so it must be something other than just a clock! LOL!
well you predicted this right. awesome..
debbie
Hi, Debbie,
I've picked up a little knowledge over the years, mostly because I have worked in a number of presidential campaigns.
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Mark Sparks Level 1 Commenter 3 months ago
"First, I must say that even though I have really gotten on Gingrich’s case and come down on him real hard -- and do not really like him as a person -- if he should win the Republican nomination for president, I will quickly do a complete about face or 180. I will not say another negative word about Gingrich and I will support him with all of my heart and soul and try to help him win, with every fiber of my being."
What has happened since December to change your mind?